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		...is that last chart what would be used if you were making up your own leaders?? 
  
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		[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Plus there is no way I would use an 8X.  7X is scary enough.  I use 6X on my 32's. and 3X on my #2[/size][/black][/font]
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		[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]The fact I use Flourocarbon and it is invisible, On small flies I will use the biggest I can get through the hole. I ten make a surgeon's loop to maintain movement in the fly.[/size][/black][/font] 
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]On bigger hooks I like a challenge so I general use 4lb or 6lb which would be 5X  and 3X. Plus If I find an underwater tree, I want the tippet or leader to break first.[/size][/black][/font]
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		how you gonna learn to fly fish if you keep going back to the WORM??  
 
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		Just all the study had worked up an appetite and aint about to catch anything but a cold with a fly setup yet. 
 
Is it fair, say there is this trout just sitting there at the surface, and I have a flyrod, to just whack him with it, it would be a flyrod, could I come back here and say "hey look at my first trout with a flyrod !!" ?? , post a pic and stuff ?? really anxious to get going, gonna snow soon. thanks, BFS 
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		OMG !! , was that bad too ??  [shocked]
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